Comments on: Why is RP Poor? Catholicism is the Reason http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/ PinoyBlog is a portal aggregator for the Philippine Blogosphere. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:30:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: medylene http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-16568 medylene Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:22:35 +0000 http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/#comment-16568 I admit that my country is poor. But I don't blame it to Catholicism. A person thinks and does things based on his own ideology- not necessarily based on what ideals Catholicism really has. I admit that my country is poor. But I don’t blame it to Catholicism. A person thinks and does things based on his own ideology- not necessarily based on what ideals Catholicism really has.

]]> By: marvinmacs http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-16549 marvinmacs Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:42:11 +0000 http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/#comment-16549 I am a Catholic. I also love my country. Like Jerome Nadal, I also wish to see progress in this country. Jerome and I appear to diverge on the following points: 1. The Filipino Catholic does not look himself as a "sinner" alone, but also as a child of God. Catholicism teaches that. The Filipino needs to claim it. 2. The Filipino Catholic sees the world as a paradise. The fruits are there. We just have to go out and pick them up. The Filipino just has to wake up earlier and work smarter, not harder. The Filipino is already a hard worker. 3. The Filipino Catholic sees salvation as living out the faith. Catholic life is a mix of faith and action. The Filipino just needs to believe more. 4. The Filipino Catholic sees life like this: Nasa Diyos ang Awa, Nasa Tao ang Gawa. The Filipino just needs to ask more, and do more. 5. The Filipino Catholic looks as being rich as an ideal, defined as being materially blessed AND being able to give. We don't hate the rich, per se. In fact, we want to be like them, or at least the benevolent versions of those whom we don't see as benevolent enough. That's my take on the arguments. http://www.pinoytales.blogspot.com I am a Catholic. I also love my country. Like Jerome Nadal, I also wish to see progress in this country. Jerome and I appear to diverge on the following points:

1. The Filipino Catholic does not look himself as a “sinner” alone, but also as a child of God. Catholicism teaches that. The Filipino needs to claim it.

2. The Filipino Catholic sees the world as a paradise. The fruits are there. We just have to go out and pick them up. The Filipino just has to wake up earlier and work smarter, not harder. The Filipino is already a hard worker.

3. The Filipino Catholic sees salvation as living out the faith. Catholic life is a mix of faith and action. The Filipino just needs to believe more.

4. The Filipino Catholic sees life like this: Nasa Diyos ang Awa, Nasa Tao ang Gawa. The Filipino just needs to ask more, and do more.

5. The Filipino Catholic looks as being rich as an ideal, defined as being materially blessed AND being able to give. We don’t hate the rich, per se. In fact, we want to be like them, or at least the benevolent versions of those whom we don’t see as benevolent enough.

That’s my take on the arguments.

http://www.pinoytales.blogspot.com

]]> By: la ciudadista http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-15523 la ciudadista Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:23:38 +0000 http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/#comment-15523 If this is all gospel truth how do you explain why predominant Catholic countries like Chile, Uruguay, Spain, France and Portugal scored high and well in the UN Human Development Index as well as Transparency International's Corruption Perception Index. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_hum_dev_ind-economy-human-development-index http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index#CPI_Ranking_.282002.E2.80.932007.29 If this is all gospel truth how do you explain why predominant Catholic countries like Chile, Uruguay, Spain, France and Portugal scored high and well in the UN Human Development Index as well as Transparency International’s Corruption Perception Index.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_hum_dev_ind-economy-human-development-index
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index#CPI_Ranking_.282002.E2.80.932007.29

]]> By: rexhor http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-14725 rexhor Sat, 17 May 2008 07:09:22 +0000 http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/#comment-14725 why catholic only?inc is the biggest corruptor of our government. imagine they can demand to post military men for their protection?what more they cant do?if you dont know they already took hold local level, bgy. that is.nakikisakay lang pero pinakamalawak ang sakop sa gobyerno natin. matakot........! why catholic only?inc is the biggest corruptor of our government. imagine they can demand to post military men for their protection?what more they cant do?if you dont know they already took hold local level, bgy. that is.nakikisakay lang pero pinakamalawak ang sakop sa gobyerno natin. matakot……..!

]]> By: Bai_Maleiha http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-2086 Bai_Maleiha Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:27:25 +0000 http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/#comment-2086 Nadal's analysis on the poorness of the Filipino people is not basically focusing on the lack of material wealth but on the "poorness of the soul." However,this will be met with a certain degree of skepticism by Catholic believers for the mere idea that religion is not an opium of the mind but the key to an enlightened soul. I agree that the poorness of the soul starts with having the wrong values in life.This is one point of reference--THE NEED FOR INTERNAL CHANGE. Positive internal change catapults an external transformation that will allow a more inspiring and a determined way of life which can contribute to productivity and a well-balanced life. Like my personal philosophy in life,I make it a point to review my thoughts and actions at the end of the day before I blame external factors. Nadal’s analysis on the poorness of the Filipino people is not basically focusing on the lack of material wealth but on the “poorness of the soul.”

However,this will be met with a certain degree of skepticism by Catholic believers for the mere idea that religion is not an opium of the mind but the key to an enlightened soul.

I agree that the poorness of the soul starts with having the wrong values in life.This is one point of reference–THE NEED FOR INTERNAL CHANGE.

Positive internal change catapults an external transformation that will allow a more inspiring and a determined way of life which can contribute to productivity and a well-balanced life.

Like my personal philosophy in life,I make it a point to review my thoughts and actions at the end of the day before I blame external factors.

]]> By: JCS http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-1236 JCS Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:02:50 +0000 http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/#comment-1236 I posted a rebuttal comment prior to Bryan's reply. Please approve it. Thanks I posted a rebuttal comment prior to Bryan’s reply. Please approve it. Thanks

]]> By: bryancd911 http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-1228 bryancd911 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:35:52 +0000 http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/#comment-1228 It's not just with Catholicism. Other faith, like INC, have attitude towards riches (#5) but doesn't exactly condemned rich as "sinners". It’s not just with Catholicism. Other faith, like INC, have attitude towards riches (#5) but doesn’t exactly condemned rich as “sinners”.

]]> By: JCS http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-1220 JCS Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:21:35 +0000 http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/#comment-1220 Oops, sorry! I thought it was Yuga who wrote the piece. I reached this site through his myblog account.. My comment was for Jerome Nadal Oops, sorry! I thought it was Yuga who wrote the piece. I reached this site through his myblog account.. My comment was for Jerome Nadal

]]> By: JCS http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-1219 JCS Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:20:12 +0000 http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/#comment-1219 Hi Yuga, You may probably blame some of the Pinoys' ways but not Catholicism. I lived in prosperous European states and a lot if not most of the people there are Catholics. France, Italy, Germany, Switzerland... Even Britain's Anglican Church is 95% catholic in terms of doctrine. I was even told that in places where they don't have a presence, members of the Church of England (Anglicans) are allowed to hear the Catholic mass. Lastly, I am not a Jesuit or Opus Dei defender of the faith. I also criticize priests and religious leaders. However, may I give this friendly reminder to be careful when it comes to criticizing entire religions. All great wars were started and waged in the name of God. Remember what Arafat said? Hi Yuga,

You may probably blame some of the Pinoys’ ways but not Catholicism. I lived in prosperous European states and a lot if not most of the people there are Catholics. France, Italy, Germany, Switzerland… Even Britain’s Anglican Church is 95% catholic in terms of doctrine. I was even told that in places where they don’t have a presence, members of the Church of England (Anglicans) are allowed to hear the Catholic mass.

Lastly, I am not a Jesuit or Opus Dei defender of the faith. I also criticize priests and religious leaders. However, may I give this friendly reminder to be careful when it comes to criticizing entire religions. All great wars were started and waged in the name of God. Remember what Arafat said?

]]> By: cyberpunk http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-1218 cyberpunk Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:42:24 +0000 http://www.pinoyblog.com/current-affairs/why-is-rp-poor-catholicism-is-the-reason/#comment-1218 I agree with #4. Instead of striving hard, a lot of Pinoys are contented to just exist...because "that was what God intended". They believe in luck and wait for heavenly blessings instead of working smartly (vs. just plain brute-force working). as for your other arguments, I don't agree much with them. I don't think the rich feel any guilt for being rich. When it comes to the topic of religion, I think the problem lies with the docility that religion preaches. Pinoys are expected to just follow tradition without really understanding or thinking about why they should do those rituals. The same mentality then pervades to other aspects of life. I agree with #4. Instead of striving hard, a lot of Pinoys are contented to just exist…because “that was what God intended”. They believe in luck and wait for heavenly blessings instead of working smartly (vs. just plain brute-force working).

as for your other arguments, I don’t agree much with them. I don’t think the rich feel any guilt for being rich.

When it comes to the topic of religion, I think the problem lies with the docility that religion preaches. Pinoys are expected to just follow tradition without really understanding or thinking about why they should do those rituals. The same mentality then pervades to other aspects of life.

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